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      <description>&lt;![CDATA[velvets&#xA;The album cover of The Velvet Underground&#39;s White Light/White Heat.&#xA;&#xA;blockquote class=&#34;wp-embedded-content&#34; data-secret=&#34;LC7XNLVn6V&#34;a href=&#34;https://500songs.com/podcast/episode-164-white-light-white-heat-by-the-velvet-underground/&#34;Episode 164: “White Light/White Heat” by the Velvet Underground/a/blockquoteiframe sandbox=&#34;allow-scripts&#34; security=&#34;restricted&#34; src=&#34;https://500songs.com/podcast/episode-164-white-light-white-heat-by-the-velvet-underground/embed/#?secret=LC7XNLVn6V&#34; width=&#34;500&#34; height=&#34;350&#34; title=&#34;“Episode 164: “White Light/White Heat” by the Velvet Underground” — A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs&#34; data-secret=&#34;LC7XNLVn6V&#34; frameborder=&#34;0&#34; marginwidth=&#34;0&#34; marginheight=&#34;0&#34; scrolling=&#34;no&#34; class=&#34;wp-embedded-content&#34;/iframescript type=&#34;text/javascript&#34;/ ![CDATA[ //! 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He is the creator and the host of the podcast A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs. The fact that most of the podcast is freely available to all is truly fucking wonderful.&#xA;&#xA;He made an episode about The Velvet Underground&#39;s song &#39;White Light/White Heat&#39;. The episode is over three hours and twenty minutes long. It&#39;s &#39;about&#39; a song that&#39;s not even three minutes long.&#xA;&#xA;OK, that&#39;s an exaggeration in the extreme. Let me explain what makes the episode singular.&#xA;&#xA;First, every episode of the podcast is focused around a specific song, but it&#39;s not only about the song; it&#39;s about the times in which it was made, the people, the surroundings, politics, philosophies, religion, etc. I made it sound boring, but it&#39;s fucking not.&#xA;&#xA;Second, this episode contains so much music from sources other than the Velvet Underground&#39;s own shit. It&#39;s required listening! La Monte Young? LA MONTE YOUNG! I had no idea who the dude was until i heard this episode and it&#39;s fucking WARPED! The music he made and still makes!? Wow. WOW. Drones that intertwine and go on forever, that&#39;s him. Shit.&#xA;&#xA;John Cage. JOHN CAGE: the composer, the mystic, the oracle-led genius who was afraid of old ideas. Wow.&#xA;&#xA;I won&#39;t go on like I&#39;m more insane than I actually am, so I&#39;ll stop soon.&#xA;&#xA;iframe width=&#34;560&#34; height=&#34;315&#34; src=&#34;https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/AJy0LP8iYPg?si=BY4DaiSCadSAGPnw&#34; title=&#34;YouTube video player&#34; frameborder=&#34;0&#34; allow=&#34;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&#34; referrerpolicy=&#34;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&#34; allowfullscreen/iframe&#xA;&#xA;In my head, what makes the song such a fucking riot is that it&#39;s kind of slow, kind of sounds like the instruments are played by beginners, and then it deteriorates while it elevates into becoming one of the true rock &#39;n&#39; roll figureheads. This is garage rock, this is rock &#39;n&#39; roll, this is three chords and the truth, this is non-CIS sexuality by a band who released their song &#39;Heroin)&#39; when The Beatles released &#39;Can&#39;t Buy Me Love&#39;. Holy shit, The Velvet Underground were truly great.&#xA;&#xA;After two minutes, &#39;White Light/White Heat&#39; goes somewhere else; the bass. The bass! The guitar mangles?! The background sweat! Shit, this song says so much.&#xA;&#xA;And to think of it, the song opens the album White Light/White Heat*. The song is followed up by &#39;The Gift)&#39;, a song that&#39;s over eight minutes long.&#xA;&#xA;iframe width=&#34;560&#34; height=&#34;315&#34; src=&#34;https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Gwth0jfdfc?si=Qd8vl7DWaq8bqPlD&#34; title=&#34;YouTube video player&#34; frameborder=&#34;0&#34; allow=&#34;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&#34; referrerpolicy=&#34;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&#34; allowfullscreen/iframe&#xA;&#xA;The stereo version of the song starts with the music mainly in the right channel. The left channel starts with a story being told by John Cale:&#xA;&#xA;  Waldo Jeffers had reached his limit  &#xA;  It was now mid-August, which meant he had been separated from Marsha for more than two months  &#xA;  Two months, and all he had to show was three dog-eared letters and two very expensive long-distance phone calls  &#xA;  True, when school had ended and she&#39;d returned to Wisconsin, and he to Locust, Pennsylvania&#xA;  She had sworn to maintain a certain fidelity&#xA;  She would date occasionally, but merely as amusement  &#xA;  She would remain faithful&#xA;&#xA;What a jump from &#39;White Light/White Heat&#39;. Some of the WL/WH lyrics:&#xA;&#xA;  Hmm hmm, White light&#xA;  Aww I surely do love to watch that stuff tip itself in&#xA;  Hmm hmm, White light&#xA;  Watch that side, watch that side don&#39;t you know it gonna be dead in the drive&#xA;  Hmm hmm, White heat&#xA;  Hey foxy mama watchin&#39; her walk down the street&#xA;  Hmm hmm, White light&#xA;  Come up side your head gonna make a deadend on your street&#xA;&#xA;#TheVelvetUnderground #music #MusicTips #AndrewHickey #LaMonteYoung #JohnCage #podcast]]&gt;</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="https://www.udiscovermusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Velvet-Underground-White-Light-White-Heat-album-cover-web-optimised-820-1536x1536.jpg" alt="velvets">
<em>The album cover of The Velvet Underground&#39;s</em> White Light/White Heat.</p>

<p><blockquote class="wp-embedded-content"><a href="https://500songs.com/podcast/episode-164-white-light-white-heat-by-the-velvet-underground/">Episode 164: “White Light/White Heat” by the Velvet Underground</a></blockquote><iframe src="https://500songs.com/podcast/episode-164-white-light-white-heat-by-the-velvet-underground/embed/#?secret=LC7XNLVn6V" width="500" height="350" frameborder="0" class="wp-embedded-content"></iframe></p>

<p>Andrew Hickey is the name of a person who should be hailed. He is the creator and the host of the podcast <em><a href="https://500songs.com/">A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs</a></em>. The fact that most of the podcast is freely available to all is truly fucking wonderful.</p>

<p>He made an episode about The Velvet Underground&#39;s song &#39;White Light/White Heat&#39;. <a href="https://500songs.com/podcast/episode-164-white-light-white-heat-by-the-velvet-underground/">The episode</a> is over three hours and twenty minutes long. It&#39;s &#39;about&#39; a song that&#39;s not even three minutes long.</p>

<p>OK, that&#39;s an exaggeration in the extreme. Let me explain what makes the episode singular.</p>

<p>First, every episode of the podcast is focused around a specific song, but it&#39;s not <em>only</em> about the song; it&#39;s about the times in which it was made, the people, the surroundings, politics, philosophies, religion, etc. I made it sound boring, but it&#39;s fucking not.</p>

<p>Second, this episode contains so much music from sources other than the Velvet Underground&#39;s own shit. It&#39;s required listening! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Monte_Young">La Monte Young</a>? <em>LA MONTE YOUNG</em>! I had no idea who the dude was until i heard this episode and it&#39;s fucking WARPED! The music he made and still makes!? Wow. WOW. Drones that intertwine and go on forever, that&#39;s him. Shit.</p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cage">John Cage</a>. JOHN CAGE: the composer, the mystic, the oracle-led genius who was afraid of <em>old</em> ideas. Wow.</p>

<p>I won&#39;t go on like I&#39;m more insane than I actually am, so I&#39;ll stop soon.</p>

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<p>In my head, what makes the song such a fucking riot is that it&#39;s kind of slow, kind of sounds like the instruments are played by beginners, and then it deteriorates <em>while it elevates</em> into becoming one of the true rock &#39;n&#39; roll figureheads. This is garage rock, this is rock &#39;n&#39; roll, this is three chords and the truth, this is non-CIS sexuality by a band who released their song &#39;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin_(The_Velvet_Underground_song)">Heroin</a>&#39; when The Beatles released &#39;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can%27t_Buy_Me_Love">Can&#39;t Buy Me Love</a>&#39;. Holy shit, The Velvet Underground were truly great.</p>

<p>After two minutes, &#39;White Light/White Heat&#39; goes somewhere else; the bass. The bass! The guitar mangles?! The background sweat! Shit, this song says so much.</p>

<p>And to think of it, the song opens the album <em>White Light/White Heat</em>. The song is followed up by &#39;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gift_(The_Velvet_Underground_song)">The Gift</a>&#39;, a song that&#39;s over eight minutes long.</p>

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<p>The stereo version of the song starts with the music mainly in the right channel. The left channel starts with a story being told by John Cale:</p>

<blockquote><p>Waldo Jeffers had reached his limit<br>
It was now mid-August, which meant he had been separated from Marsha for more than two months<br>
Two months, and all he had to show was three dog-eared letters and two very expensive long-distance phone calls<br>
True, when school had ended and she&#39;d returned to Wisconsin, and he to Locust, Pennsylvania
She had sworn to maintain a certain fidelity
She would date occasionally, but merely as amusement<br>
She would remain faithful</p></blockquote>

<p>What a jump from &#39;White Light/White Heat&#39;. Some of the WL/WH lyrics:</p>

<blockquote><p>Hmm hmm, White light
Aww I surely do love to watch that stuff tip itself in
Hmm hmm, White light
Watch that side, watch that side don&#39;t you know it gonna be dead in the drive
Hmm hmm, White heat
Hey foxy mama watchin&#39; her walk down the street
Hmm hmm, White light
Come up side your head gonna make a deadend on your street</p></blockquote>

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